Craig Farr has submitted points update through the Dragon Hillclimb.
We have some interesting class battle shaping up!
CF – Paul Crouch and Barry Durham are within 3 points in Continental Fords
CSP – Wally Lacey and Eric Trigg are separated by 1 point.
ESP – Robert McManus has a healthy lead!
F600 – George Bugg leading his son Steven by 4 points.
FV – 8 points separate 1t through 5th – Mike Chandler, Mark Rothermel, Andrew Pinkerton, Lynn Sweatte, Jim Bowers
ITA – a THREE way tie for first in ITA between Daniel Toth, Willie Phee and Mark Seiler
SPO – Heikki Rinta-Koski leading Scott Williams
SRF – Bruce Funderburk with a slight lead over Trey Ayers.
SU – Leon Drake and Mark Kilgore battling it out in SU… this new class is going to be a good one to watch!
CONGRATS TO ALL PARTICPANTS! We look forward to seeing the last half of 2012 take shape!
Click here to see points spreadsheet! July 2012 Time Trial Points Update
This video was produced by two of our SEDIV Time Trial drivers, Mark and John Kilgore at the June 23 & 24 Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb in Robbinsville, NC. This communicates vividly what a drivers sees and feels… the hillclimb experience is unique and a proud part of our SCCA history in the Southeast Division!
The Southeast Division Time Trial Committee has been working on a new program which will allow holders of Novice licenses to run hillclimbs while receiving instruction and mentoring. The basis for this decision was founded on data from SEDIV Hillclimbs as well as Pennsylvania Hillclimb Series which have both proven, incidents that have occurred in the past were with experienced hillclimbers pushing hard to win their class or set a record. The Novice drivers tend to be more cautious. PHA has done a fine job of educating novice drivers and has experienced good results from that effort.
The SEDIV Time Trial Committee voted to approve this new program last month for use at select hillclimbs. We will consider a Novice driver to be someone who has not run that hillclimb site before. If you are an experienced hillclimber but have never run that site, we will ask you to attend a class covering the mountain, taking a drive up the mountain with other students and an instructor and be mentored by a past hillclimber for the weekend.
The following document has been prepared to outline this program. If a driver runs a hillclimb on a TT Novice License, after the event, he or she will still hold a Novice TT License. This program is not designed to take the place of 3 flat track Time Trials requirements or a Time Trial School to obtain a Full Time Trial License. We look forward to bringing new drivers in to the sport of hillclimbing and growing relationships in our Division through sharing experiences and mentoring. We plan to pioneer this program at the Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb in Robbinsville, NC on June 23-24. More details will be given in the Supplemental Regulations for that specific event.
SEDIV NOVICE HILL CLIMB PROGRAM
To provide a safe and effective program for novices in the Southeast Division (SEDiv) Time Trials Hill Climbs.
HILL CLIMB NOVICE:
- A driver who holds a Time Trials or Road Race Novice permit.
- A licensed (TT, Competition, FIA, other licenses recognized by SCCA) driver who has not competed on the particular Hill before.
- TT novices are required to obtain a SCCA TT novice permit in advance of the event.
- A Novice Meeting will be held before the General Driver’s meeting on Saturday morning. (see text below)
- Novices will be taken up the hill and shown the lines thru the turns, any particular tricky areas, any hazards, and given the chance to ask questions. It might be best to hold this Hill Walk on Friday evening.
- First run up the Hill is a brisk touring run with drivers following a pace car. This may be two groups depending on the number of Novices and the number of 2-driver cars.
- Stewards and Corner Workers will be giving the Novices a short leash as they observe their performance on the hill. Put a large “X” on their cars to aid in recognition.
- Assign a veteran mentor to each Novice to assist them with the learning curve.
- Introduce Chief Steward and Safety Stewards
- Discuss Flags and Procedures. Did anyone actually read the Supps?
- Chalk Talk using a diagram of the hill. Make them aware that there is absolutely no margin for error. Spin, late brake, or go off and you are more than likely to experience a tree, ditch, or rock up close and personal. It takes the best drivers 2-3 years to really learn a hill.
- Being ready when you come to the line (check belts, check tire pressures, torque wheel nuts, arm restraints, helmet fastened, etc.)
- Starting procedures – This is a rolling start not a drag race start. Start quick but under control.
- Explain the finish procedures. Slow down to a safe speed then to walking speed. There are other cars queued up along the road side waiting to travel back down the hill.
- First Run – Tires, pavement, and driver are cold, so make it a familiarization run at 70%. Just find your way to the top. Learn the course, learn the braking points, learn the drive lines. Don’t cheat in on the apexes. Stay on the road surface.
- Second Run – Practice what you learned in the first run but at 80%.
- Third and beyond Runs – Remember that you are racing against yourself. Improve your own times over the weekend. Don’t worry about Class results. Remember that a simple mistake can cost you car damage and your weekend. The best racers may only be at 90% on a difficult hill.
- At the top of the hill, talk to other drivers and learn what they know. In the paddock, talk to the many veterans/mentors who are always willing to help you.
- Two or more wheels off course
Result: Mandatory discussion with the Chief Driving Instructor. SAT rating possible. Corner worker reports could adversely affect this rating.
- Spin without contact
Result: Mandatory discussion with the Chief Driving Instructor. A SAT rating with cautionary notation in the TT Novice Permit. Corner worker feedback may result in an UNSAT rating
- Off course crash as a novice
Result: Mandatory discussion with the Chief Driving Instructor AND Chief Steward about cause and effect. For example; Overdriving, wrong line, too fast for skill level, car failure, etc. The driver can offer mitigating circumstances, but generally, crashing as a novice is frowned upon. UNSAT entry in the Novice Permit,
- Unsportsmanlike Conduct. (Uncontrolled temper, disrespect towards drivers, workers and/or officials, conduct deemed inappropriate by the Stewards/Instructors)
Result: UNSAT entry in the Novice Permit with appropriate notation of the issue and possible disqualification for the weekend. Final decision is with the Chief Steward.
SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS TOPICS (may be modified to suit the event)
NOVICE REGULATIONS: A novice is defined as any driver currently competing under a TT Novice Permit or SCCA Novice Competition License OR any driver that has not competed at that site. ALL novices are required to meet the following expectations in order to obtain a SATisfactory rating:
- Novices must present themselves and their car at registration on Friday evening.
- Novices must attend the Novice Driver’s Meeting and Sunday Driver’s Meeting.
- All novice cars MUST display an X on both sides of the vehicle adjacent to the numbers. The color of the stripes must be of a contrasting color from the body paint.
- Complete the weekend without “Incidents” as defined below.
Failure to meet these expectations may result in an UNSATisfactory rating or disqualification from the event.
How does a person obtain a license to compete in SEDIV Track Trials (Level 3) and Hill Climbs (Level 4)? The easy way out would be to tell you to go to www.scca.com and figure it out. It is all there but sometimes it is easier to understand if someone distills it down to simple steps. Everything I say herein is related to Track Trials (Level 3) and Hill Climbs (Level 4) and not necessarily to Level 1 (PDX) and Level 2 (Club Trials) which do not require a SCCA TT permit.
1. SCCA MEMBERSHIP: You must be a SCCA member to compete in Time Trials (TT). You can be a regular full time member or use one of the Weekend Memberships that are available. SCCA would like us to charge $15 for a Weekend Membership but it can defray the cost of a regular membership when you join.
2.LICENSES ACCEPTED: If you have a SCCA Regional, National, Professional, Vintage, Novice Competition License or a Canadian ASN-FIA License, they are sufficient for racing in Time Trials. If you have a road race license from a recognized racing organization (BMWCCA, POC, NASA, Rally America, etc), it is usually sufficient for Time Trials. The other licenses are permitted will be specified in the event Supplemental Regulations (Supps). SCCA membership (i.e., weekend membership) is still required. SCCA licenses are often recognized by other racing groups.
3.NOVICE TT PERMIT: Other than the above, step one would to obtain a Novice Time Trials permit. The permit application form and medical forms can be found the websites below. The cost of the permit is $35 and the only medical information required is a self certification of your medical history. No doctor’s exam is necessary at this point unless you have some special medical condition and SCCA will let you know that when they review your application. You can then race using the Novice TT permit. Some events are set up such that the Chief Steward can issue TT Novice credentials at the event itself. Contact the particular event chairman. Finish 3 flat track events (Level 3) without incident, have the Chief Steward of each event sign off on your Novice Permit Book, and you can then apply for your full TT permit (see Step 6).
4. HAVE TRACK EXPERIENCE?: Alternatives to the novice TT permit route do exist. If you are a former competition (race, TT, etc.) license holder or have significant track experience, that can be used to grant you a full TT permit without going thru the Novice permit stage. There are a few officials (TTAC representatives, Divisional Administrator, Chief Stewards, certain Regional Executives, etc.) within SEDIV who can sign off on your full TT permit application.
5. SEDIV TT SCHOOL: Another alternative is somewhat unique to SEDIV. SEDIV holds a TT School at the spring event held at Talladega Gran Prix Raceway each year. At the school, you are provided with instruction on flags, safety, passing, and track awareness and observed by a TT instructor/mentor assigned to you. You will be driving on track with fully licensed TT drivers and other students. If at the end of the weekend, you have performed satisfactorily, a full TT permit application can be signed off for you. The question to be answered by each instructor/mentor is this: “Do I want to be on the track at speed alongside this driver?” I can truthfully say that not everyone passes the TT School – it is not automatic.
6. FULL TT PERMIT: Applying for the full TT license is rather simple. The permit application form is the same either for a Novice or Full TT permit. If you have gone thru the Step 4 or Step 5 process, the form will be signed in the middle “Upgrades” section by an authorized individual and can be used for the full TT permit application. For the full TT permit, you will have to go thru the complete medical forms consisting of your self evaluation and a doctor’s evaluation. The cost of the full license application is $35. If you have already applied for a TT Novice permit and apply for the full License within 90 days of the Novice permit application, then there is no additional charge.
7. NOTE: You do need to have a State driver’s license. If you are under 18, then the usual Minor Waiver signed by your parents has to be provided as well. This is true for either the Novice or full TT permit.
SPECIAL NOTE: Anytime you send applications or forms or participation books to SCCA remember to make a copy first. Reason #1 is in case they get misplaced/lost. Reason #2 is that while you are waiting for SCCA to send you a new membership card, you can use the copy as proof of your license level.
TT Permit Application Form: http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/Documents/Club%20Forms/form-tt-ttnovice.pdf
Medical Forms: http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/Physical.pdf
All of the above presupposes that you have a TT ready car and the necessary personal safety gear. Have any questions? Feel free to contact me, Craig Farr, at email@example.com
Article by Craig Farr – SCCA SEDIV TT Committee Member and TTAC Representative
The May 5 & 6 dates that were planned for the Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb had to be changed. The Minis on the Gap were on the same weekend and accommodations were booked out from Fontana area to Robbinsville. That meant if the date was kept, our drivers, workers and spectators would be forced to stay further from the event and it would not help Robbinsville Tourism. Central Carolinas Region officers worked with Robbinsville and Graham County to find a better date for our event.
The asphalt repairs will be finished by June 1st and the roads and guard rail areas will be trimmed and cleaned the Thursday before the event! We have some other surprises this year you will enjoy so make your plans now to attend. We are expecting double the drivers and double the spectators… this means you need to book your accommodations early as possible. The following link shows hotels/ motels and rentals available in the area. (Be sure to press where it says “Click here” for campgrounds, hotels, resorts, etc.) Please look closely at descriptions to be certain they are close to Santeetlah and Robbinsville areas.The rental rates for many of the cabins and chalet rentals are $125 to $175 per night and can sleep 6 to 8. We strongly recommend groups going in together on these deals!
Apr 14-15 TVR/AL Talladega Grand Prix Raceway (PDX/TT/TT School)
May 19 ATL Road Atlanta (TT Sat, PDX Sun)
June 9 ATL Atlanta Motorsports Park Short Course (PDX/TT)
June 23-24 CCR Chasing the Dragon Hill Climb
Sep 29-30 CCR Chasing the Dragon Hill Climb II
Oct 27-28 TVR/AL Talladega Grand Prix Raceway (PDX/TT)
Nov 10-11 BUCC Roebling Road (PDX/TT)
ENTERING THE TIME TRIAL RANKS? Been doing a lot of SOLO? Thinking it would be great to get your car on a race track and see what you and it can do? Want more seat time than you can get in SOLO? It is not as difficult or as expensive as you might think. You do not have to have a road race prepared car to participate. My daily driver Miata is still used for SOLO, Hill Climbs and Track Trials. Read more
Article with information on getting started in Hillclimbing in SCCA Southeast Division!
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